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EDRM Global Podcast Network’s Illumination Zone: Doug Kaminski, Chief Revenue Officer and John Pappas, senior director of EDRM Trusted Partner, Cobra Legal Solutions, sit down with Kaylee & Mary to talk about their experience at CLOC, their approach to pricing alignment with clients and what attracted John Pappas to Cobra.